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a budget fight than a long-protracted fight over the debt ceiling. >> cenk: i'm going to be controversial. i don't think so, and i'll tell you why and michael and grace you can speak to this. i think what it is that their bosses in corporate america said no debt cereal ceiling is sacrosanct. you mess with payments to soldiers any time you like but you're not going to mess with our bonds, what do you think about that, grace. >> that's a little conspiracial for my test, but they said, we can't default. don't hold the economy hostage any more. cut spending where you want to cut spending but don't use the debt limit to do it. they realize there is no political appetite in the business world in the regular world, and in the political world to hold the economy hostage in the way that they did in 2011. >> michael, tell me how in the world they gain leverage by having the fight over the budget or the sequester instead? i don't see it. >> there is something that nobody is talking about here, which is the political leverage that boehner wants right now. i think boehner needs to reassess. i think th
a budget fight than a long-protracted fight over the debt ceiling. >> cenk: i'm going to be controversial. i don't think so, and i'll tell you why and michael and grace you can speak to this. i think what it is that their bosses in corporate america said no debt cereal ceiling is sacrosanct. you mess with payments to soldiers any time you like but you're not going to mess with our bonds, what do you think about that, grace. >> that's a little conspiracial for my test, but they said,...
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ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of state said, and i'm quoting her, we are facing a spreading hi hjihadist threat across nort africa. is it your view that the attack on the consulate in libya, the hostage taking at that gas plant in algeria, and the conflict in mali mean that north africa is now the main front for islamic terrorism and how does a new secretary of state confront this? >> great question. i don't know that i would say it's the main front, but it is certainly a serious front and a serious set of interlocked issues. one thing we hav
ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of...
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no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt ceiling for about three months, it also requires the house and senate to pass budget resolutions by april 15th, and if they don't, representatives and senators will not get paid, which is of course, wildly unconstitutional. the 27th amendment prohibits congress from modifying their own paychecks in any way. they can vote to change the pay for future congress only, but republicans passing an unconstitutional bill, while at the same time relieving the pressure on the debt ceiling was welcomed by some democrats as republicans moving from out-right crazy to half-crazy. >> i'm not sure w
no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt...
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in this half hour the house passes a bill to suspend the debt ceiling but the spending sequester cuts are still set to kick in on march 1st and i hope they do. now house speaker john boehner says president obama is out to annihilate the republican party. we'll talk about all that with new hampshire senator kelly ayotte and our political panel in just a few moments. >> also, big time golfers phil mickelson, tiger woods, lebron james and derek jeter are all supply siders. we'll explain that later this hour. >> i wasn't involved in the talking points process. as i understand it, as i've been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the state department all participated to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available. >> that of course was secretary of state clinton today on capitol hill saying she had no role in susan rice's false talking points on the benghazi consulate attack. but will we ever find out why ambassador rice denied the terrorist attack and misled the public saying this on "meet the press." >> what happened in benghazi
in this half hour the house passes a bill to suspend the debt ceiling but the spending sequester cuts are still set to kick in on march 1st and i hope they do. now house speaker john boehner says president obama is out to annihilate the republican party. we'll talk about all that with new hampshire senator kelly ayotte and our political panel in just a few moments. >> also, big time golfers phil mickelson, tiger woods, lebron james and derek jeter are all supply siders. we'll explain that...
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for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a bipartisan effort. look, if you look at the goal, we've got to get our fiscal house in order, we've got to balance the budget, and in order to do that, the senate actually has to produce a budget, which they haven't done in nearly four years. the house has had budgets for each of the last two years that actually get to balance. so what we did, in this bill, is to say to the senate, look, you've got to do a budget. families do budgets, businesses do budgets, employers do budgets. the senate has not done a budget in nearly four years, so this is the challenge for th
for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a...
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take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes necessary to reinstitute the talking filibuster even through the so-called nuclear option, even though everyone seems to want it. the last hope in filibuster reform is harry reid's great compromise of needing 41 votes to maintain a filibuster but i'm confident that the democrats will find some way to back down from that, too. joining me now the only one and only michael tomasky. starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to the g.o.p. >> i think the latter and i
take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes...
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not going to keep raising the debt ceiling at indicating that there will be steep cuts said. what is the chance of that? >> well, i hope the is right, but i fear he is wrong. i think that the current mood of the country is more sympathetic to the president and the democrats' perspective, which is that we don't really have a serious spending problem. we have a minor spending problem we can do with a little bit. we can raise taxes on high-income households a little bit more and we don't have to make fundamental cuts in entitlements. i think that's wrong. i think we have to make substantial cuts in entitlements. we should make substantial cuts in many other components of expenditure as well, defense and nondefense in that trying to address our long term fiscal situation with higher taxes is is going to destroy the economy. gerri: democrats are beating the drum on this already. anyone you listen to from that side of the house is really talking about higher taxes. republicans and conservatives in general like to talk about the power of economic growth. could robust growth that a l
not going to keep raising the debt ceiling at indicating that there will be steep cuts said. what is the chance of that? >> well, i hope the is right, but i fear he is wrong. i think that the current mood of the country is more sympathetic to the president and the democrats' perspective, which is that we don't really have a serious spending problem. we have a minor spending problem we can do with a little bit. we can raise taxes on high-income households a little bit more and we don't...
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remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses? >> i think they do. gwen, i think you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. yes, the republicans folded on this wise wisely. finally, i think they got some smart on this. you have to pick your fights. they need a breather now. they've been on the defense for a year on tax cuts for millionaires, on toughness, shutting down the government, they're not going to compromise. they need to recalbright here, a reset button needs to be pushed and it seems like in every aspect of government. and fight on future spending, not on obligations already incur. >> ifill: in the inaugural address this week
remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses?...
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the house would like to not raise the debt ceiling at all. as they're preference, at least the majority of them. but they can't do that because they can't get the spending cuts to offset anything. what they're doing is trying to buy some time. the middle ground between doing nothing and surrender entirely. gerri: the middle ground. >> between surrender in doing nothing in all. on satisfying, but irresponsible piece of action. gerri: okay. well, what do you say? the interesting part of this command of one to you what you have to say. apparently the senate will okay this idea that it won't get paid if they don't create a budget. that's not really true. they will get paid, but the money will go into an account somewhere and be held for a while. they eventually will be paid. the end of the day and don't really see any bodies and getting smacked. >> well, the money will be held until the very end of 2014, the end of this congress. another thing people wanted paychecks held for 20 months. at think this is the only thing that got their attention. to
the house would like to not raise the debt ceiling at all. as they're preference, at least the majority of them. but they can't do that because they can't get the spending cuts to offset anything. what they're doing is trying to buy some time. the middle ground between doing nothing and surrender entirely. gerri: the middle ground. >> between surrender in doing nothing in all. on satisfying, but irresponsible piece of action. gerri: okay. well, what do you say? the interesting part of...
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so on top of keeping this debt ceiling cloud over the economy, they're talking about these across-the-board meat ax cuts that will also hurt the economy, when we should be focused on jobs and economic growth. >> congressman chris van hollen, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." >> good to be with you. thank you. >> there is a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. ted nugent goes off the deep end. >> the barack obama gang attempting to reimplement the tyranny of king george. >> we'll show you what he and his buddies will be up against. >>> we all pay a transaction tax every day, but not the fat cats on wall street. david cay johnston tells us how it could make a dig difference. >>> and next, vermont senator bernie sanders will tell us if the senate filibuster rules are about to change. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." at this hour, there is still no finalized deal between democrats and republicans on filibuster reform in the senate, but new details are coming out. but no matter what happens, it looks like the all important talking filibuster
so on top of keeping this debt ceiling cloud over the economy, they're talking about these across-the-board meat ax cuts that will also hurt the economy, when we should be focused on jobs and economic growth. >> congressman chris van hollen, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." >> good to be with you. thank you. >> there is a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. ted nugent goes off the deep end. >> the...
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going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way democrats do. we actually went through this with paul ryan's budget which was so egregious the leader of his party had to back away from it in the campaign. >> stephanie: yeah, it was seen as sort of a slap at the senate but they are calling it the no budget, no pay idea. it has been regarded by a lot of people as a gim
going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see....
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i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and grandchildren's money, and charles is exactly right. the reason why our credit got downgraded is because of our out of control spending and out of control debt. the fiscal cliff deal even we just witnessed, it's such -- added four trillion dollars to our deficit over the next ten years. so, congress is not serious about reigning in spending and that's exactly when the we need to too. >> but they're not doing it. >> they're not doing it. and it neils hunky dorie. that's just it. >> the markets aren't. >> the markets are hunky doory for a few reasons. it's pause of the global economy. markets went up and
i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and...
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ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year. >> reporter: now, we have been asking our guests here for the riskometer. on this side we have is the u.s. a bigger threat to global growth in 2013. on this side the e.u. lutnic thinks the u.s. is by far the bigger. as you look overall most people still seem to believe europe is the biggest threat in 2013. by the way, speet tweet me wher think the biggest threat is. >> very official looking. did you make that yourself? >> don't you mock it? it works and it is doing a good job. >> we will have people tweet you and see what they feel about all of this but a lot of power players weighing in on whether or not there i
ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year....
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the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the nation's gun control debate, this could be the most polarizing issue. >> anybody can claim stand your ground and they could get away with murder. >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: yes indeed. equality moves to the front lines as the pentagon today lifts the ban on women in combat. big move. a great move. hello, everybody. happy, happy thursday and welcome, welcome to the "full court press." coming to you live all the way across this great l
the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the...
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we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at you to but. [video clip] >> from what we heard yesterday, it is pretty clear to me -- it should be clear to all you he knows he cannot do any of that as long as the house is controlled by republicans. we are expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. i do believe that is their goal. and just to shut us into the dustbin of history. host: these were remarks to the ripon society. they go on to write to that the transcripts or accurate, and noted that the speaker regularly attends the event. perhaps we will hear more about this in the
we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at...